Words of Caution for the NJ Tea Party Movement

The haul between those heady days back in 2009 – when Tea Parties sprang into existence like so many blades of new grass – and today, where the rubber meets the road and the Tea Party movement has proven itself to be a powerful force for political change here in New Jersey, has been a long and arduous one. Many lessons have been learned – most of them the hard way, by trial and error. Though sometimes sadder for the experience, we are hopefully that much wiser and that much stronger.

As it happens that certain Tea Party groups have grown in size and power, it follows that these groups have attracted the attention of the Republican political establishment in this state, which presently is dominated by RINOs and career political hacks at the leadership level;  these folks despise the Tea Party movement and  would sooner have it disappear altogether. They never forgot what we accomplished in 2010 (particularly, Anna Little’s astonishing victory in the Republican congressional primary) and they are determined that it will not happen again. Yes, there will be those occasions when the RINO leadership will appear to extend an olive branch or seem unusually cooperative and willing to “work together” with a particular group or the movement itself, but don’t be lulled into a sense of false security: the moment you are no longer of use to them or their agenda changes, they will throw you under the bus in a heartbeat. The sooner that individual Tea Party groups understand and accept this fact of political life, the better off they will be.

This is not to say that we must write off the entire GOP in New Jersey. Let’s face it: many if not most of the Tea Party population are registered Republicans and while most are rank-and-file, there are a great many who occupy low-level positions within the party hierarchy. Moreover, there are also members of the GOP establishment who, while not active members of any particular Tea Party group, are nevertheless sympathetic to the cause. We know who they are and we must seek out  their support and allegiance. It follows that we must likewise reject out of hand even the thought of forming a third party: it would only split the anti-Democrat vote and ensure that the party of Big Government dominates the political landscape forever.

Instead, the Tea Party movement must work hard to return the Republican Party to its Reaganite roots; this can only be accomplished at the grassroots level as each individual Tea Party group makes every effort to influence elections on the municipal, county and even the state level by promoting their own candidates or carefully vetting those already running. In order to effectively accomplish this, it is imperative that each and every Tea Party group in New Jersey jealously preserve its independence, for that is the hallmark of the Tea party movement. This means that we must, at all times, avoid being co-opted or dominated by ANY political or advocacy organization – including those that profess to “lead” the conservative movement – be it in the Garden State or nationwide. This even includes national-level organizations that claim to represent the agenda of the Tea Party movement but, in reality, have their own particular agenda.

Here in the Garden State, the conservative movement has lately been gaining momentum and has found a home in a loosely-knit coalition of political leaders (such as State Senator Mike Doherty) and activists (such as Rob Eichmann and Bill Winkler) allied with former gubernatorial candidate Steve Lonegan. This coalition – known as the Conservative Leadership Caucus – is working hard to increase its base of supporters and enlist the aid of the Tea Party movement. It is likewise despised by the RINO establishment – perhaps more so, because it presents a very real political threat to the political status quo.

At this point I present to the Tea Party movement in New Jersey a cautionary tale, one that ends with the admonition to look very carefully before you leap.

Late last year, after the November elections, the Bayshore Tea Party group decided to ally itself with Steve Lonegan and the movement he was organizing that would eventually become the Conservative Leadership Caucus (CLC). For several months, the relationship was a mutually beneficial one until April – when Bayshore declined to support Lonegan’s “Maxed Out Spending” bus tour in Congressman Chris Smith’s district because they believed the bus tour should also have included the districts of  Frank LoBiondo and Leonard Lance.

That was when the attacks began at a website that calls itself Conservative New Jersey. Over the course of the next few months, the attacks from both Rob Eichmann and Bill Winkler increased in both frequency and vehemence – particularly after those occasions when Bayshore persisted in maintaining its independence. It should be noted that each and every one of these attacks had no foundation in fact but rested entirely on the quicksand of half-truth, insinuation and innuendo.

But these attacks were not limited to the Bayshore group alone: they were leveled at other Tea Party organizations – particularly individuals who planned and implemented the “Citizens’ Convention: The  Battle for Trenton” held on April 16, 2011. It  started with an anonymous e-mail sent to many Tea Party groups, viciously attacking those organizations  involved with the gathering. These attacks continued on CNJ.  All of this began after Steve Lonegan and Mike Doherty of the CLC – who thought they would be delivering speeches at the convention – were informed they were not scheduled to do so, although the invitation to attend the convention and participate on the rank-and-file level was certainly open. It is worth noting that, although both were invited to attend as participants, neither Lonegan nor Doherty showed up. So much for devotion to The Cause if no publicity spotlight is available. Ever since then, Eichmann and Winkler have engaged in ceaseless attacks on the Tea parties involved in this convention.

For its part, the BTPG maintained its silence – refusing to dignify these attacks with a response. No one from the CLC came forward to condemn the slanders and libel, giving the casual observer the impression that Eichmann and Winkler were acting with at least the tacit approval of Lonegan and the other members of the caucus.

During this time I was busy writing for RightDirection.com and I saw the enormous injustice being perpetrated by those who call themselves conservatives against those I knew for a fact were good and patriotic conservatives. Unfortunately, the editorial leash around my neck prohibited me from saying anything meaningful in defense of the BTPG. All of that changed, however, after I resigned from Right Direction in late June and launched Bulldog Pundit on July 4. Since then, I have defended the Bayshore Tea Party with a full-throated roar.

Those who seek the truth will find it in these pages, where I have exposed the CLC for what it really is:  the “Pseudo-Reagan Wing” of the establishment GOP.  The CLC has adopted all the outward trappings and accouterments of the RINO establishment, including an hierarchical structure and the subjugation of principle to political expediency. In both form and function, it is a clone of the RINO establishment and the difference between the two lies in the nature of the principles subjugated: where the RINO establishment sacrifices ideological purity, the CLC sacrifices morality – and in this respect its modus operandi more closely resembles that of a Soros-funded, Leftist attack organization than  a movement dedicated to the principles embraced by Ronald Reagan.

In their world, conservatism – as they define it – trumps moral character and ideology far outweighs personal integrity; the triumph of The Cause – as they define it – is to be achieved at all costs. It necessarily demands a cult-like dedication that rejects out of hand the possibility of error together with a ready willingness to crush any opposition – however loyal -  and silence every voice that expresses dissent or even constructive criticism by any and all means. It is the perverse reflection of Lenin’s dictum that you can make an omelet only if you are willing to break a few eggs.

The CLC regards the Tea Party groups in New Jersey as their “shock troops;” unquestioning obedience and total fealty are expected. Dissent or disagreement – however civilly expressed – will be met with swift retribution. Refusal to do everything the CLC orders it to do will earn severe punishment. Any Tea Party group that engages in behavior deemed a violation of Conservatism as defined by the CLC will be viciously slandered, libeled and defamed until it is cowed into submission or silence.

This is precisely what has happened over the past six months to the Bayshore Tea Party Group – which dared to dissent from the CLC party line. Other Tea Party groups have since become targets and victims of the same insinuations, innuendo and outright lies directed against the Bayshore group. It has become clear by now that the attackers are operating with the approval of the CLC leadership (Steve Lonegan and Mike Doherty among others) because that leadership has done nothing to stop the attacks – even after being publicly called out to denounce them. But they are also operating with the approval of the RINO establishment, which wants nothing more than protracted conflict between the Tea Party movement and the CLC.

The landscape ahead will not be a pleasant one for New Jersey Tea Party organizations: on the one hand, they are despised by the RINO establishment and on the other, they are expected to be the handmaidens and shock troops of the CLC, taking their orders from Steve Lonegan and following those orders to the letter. If they assert their independence, they risk the wrath of the CLC in the form of their blogger henchmen and can expect no assistance from the Republican Party leadership – particularly since GOP State Committeeman Rob Eichmann is spearheading the attacks. You read that correctly: for all practical purposes, the NJGOP has joined forces with Lonegan’s CLC to attack the Tea party movement in New Jersey. Politics really does make for some pretty strange bedfellows, no?

Under the present circumstances, every Tea Party organization in New Jersey is faced with a difficult decision going forward: accept the status quo or draw a line in the sand. A group that chooses the former must be willing to accept the yoke of the CLC under the cynically collaborationist eyes of the RINO establishment and be prepared for punishment if they stray from the party line.

A group that chooses the latter must have the courage to say “This far and no farther” and be willing to endure the slings and arrows that will come its way courtesy of the CLC and its henchmen.  If so, then Bayshore Tea Party Group, Ocean County Citizens for Freedom and the Jersey Shore Tea Party Group welcome you to the battle for Tea Party independence.

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43 Responses to Words of Caution for the NJ Tea Party Movement

  1. dloosend says:

    l have a feeling this column may spread far and wide : )

  2. Barb says:

    This far and no farther, say I.

  3. hehehe says:

    Two questions: Is this a vanilla/chocolate kind of question?

    & when can we all start calling him “Rino Rob Eichmann?”

  4. truther says:

    “This means that we must, at all times, avoid being co-opted or dominated by ANY political or advocacy organization – including those that profess to “lead” the conservative movement – be it in the Garden State or nationwide. This even includes national-level organizations that claim to represent the agenda of the Tea Party movement but, in reality, have their own particular agenda.”

    Gene, brilliantly written and stated. The non commentary by Lonegan, McHose, Oroho, Doherty et al, speaks volumes since they are the folks who retain Winkler and Eichmann to work on their campaigns. And yet they say not a word. Silence is consent.

    Since the NJGOP will not do anything either, perhaps it is time to unelect some of their office holders even if it means putting D’s in office. Seems the NJGOP, along with the aforementioned politicos, is fundamentally complicit by their silent consent as well and will not get it until they get a 2 x 4 in their political chops!

    May they all rot in Rino Hell!

  5. firedup49 says:

    I have a feeling that some that are in the Tea Party wish to take over. or get rid of.. (that are very politicly connected). and I am determined find out…

  6. Mark D Quick says:

    During the May meeting of the Sussex Tea Party, Assemblywoman Alison McHose was a guest speaker. Along with her came Bill Winkler and the truth be told they came for blood. The attacks were against RoseAnn Salinitri and myself. Soon after I started being attacked on local blogs like NJ.com forums and other sites I visit. I asked respectfully not to be attacked being at the time a Warren County Republican Committee member I directly addressed this to the Warren County Republican chairman and Sussex’s chairwoman through Emails. I think the out in the open attacks at the Sussex meeting showed our members the true colors of those whom represent the 24th district. As for myself it just gives more reason to keep running against an evil empire. Principle, Not Party…..It’s time to toss all the traitors out. Those whom attack us are not our friends and can’t be trusted. If the state wide groups want to take out those whom hire the likes of Winkler and support real Patriot my campaign and RoseAnn’s could really use some help. We are running against McHose and Chiusano…… Mark D Quick

  7. TP109 says:

    Winkler..indicted legally in Minnesota…Eichmann indicted mentally by his own dimwittedness.

  8. NeverGiveUp says:

    Ok, it has to be said. One of the people you speak about said to me directly: “I don’t care about redistricting, I just want to win.” Yes, those words exactly. In other words, to draw district boundaries using the NJ Constitution isn’t a priority, but winning is! If that ain’t a kick in the old Constitution, huh? By the way, it is one of the more prominent figures you have mentioned. Does this surprise anyone? Well, I’ll admit, it did me at the time.

    “Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.”
    ~Thomas Jefferson

  9. Barb says:

    Thank you Mark….good to know. Firedup49…can you clarify? Not quite sure what your comment means..thanks!

    • firedup49 says:

      I would love to, but until I am 100% sure.
      Just join TP close to were I live, parkway can be a hassle. I did email you information last week, in response to Bayshore 9/4 please read this.. email…

  10. NeverGiveUp says:

    To Mark D. and RoseAnn Salinitri. Keep up the great work, it’s obviously having an impact!

  11. Barb says:

    NeverGiveUp…..who? which one? The truth must be told. The line has been drawn in the sand, remember?

    • edmundburke1965 says:

      Very interesting read, Mr. Hoyas. I agree that the tea party
      movement must reject the shenanigans of establishment Republicans. I
      believe the work of the Bayshore Tea Party, and other tea parties in
      the state, has been nothing short of truly inspirational. I recently
      got back into the habit of checking the Bayshore Tea Party facebook
      page, and one thing struck me as quite odd. There is some guy named
      Bob who has asked them to denounce the double dipping of the ultimate RINO, Sam Thompson. This seems to be a no-brainer. However, it
      seems like Bayshore is not doing this. Am I missing something?
      Thanks again for the great read.

      • HeleneH says:

        Ed, are you or Bob willing to head that committee?

        • lg1015 says:

          Ed: Here is what you’re missing.

          Is that the same “Bob” who complained on BTPG fb page, that Bayshore didn’t respond quickly enough to condemn the double dipping allegations against Sam Thompson? The same Bob who neglected to mention that he’s running for office against Thompson? Mr. Brown was invited to speak at a future BTPG meeting. (We had a Socialist at our meeting, why wouldn’t we have a Democrat to one?) It was also suggested that we invite Mr. Thompson to speak, as well, as the BTPG does not blindly accept accusations without hearing both sides of the story. As of this post, Mr. Brown has, not only, NOT responded to the invitation, but all his postings have disappeared. (FYI: I don’t live in Thompson’s district, so I don’t have a dog in this fight.)

  12. NeverGiveUp says:

    Why Mr. Lonegan of course.

  13. Barb says:

    When he can’t find a friend or a crowd to ride his buses to DC, he will learn what it means to be a phoney baloney conservative. WE are the real conservatives…we do it for our future, and our childrens futures. They do it for themselves..for power.

  14. owleyepundit says:

    I’m firmly convinced that we lost the GOP’s friendship with redistricting. By rejecting the ‘stability’ of gerrymandering and especially retributive gerrymandering we have threatened the whole Washington power structure. Now at this point, I could actually accept a little reverse bias in gerrymandering but my brothers-in-tea are calling me to a higher standard.

  15. jtsgrandmom says:

    “Return, reform, rebuild” has always been a losing strategy for the TPPs to pursue.

    There are no “Reagan Conservatives in the GOP. The GOP is a party dominated by RINOs, a group that the TPP has risen to drive out of power.

    Aligning with them has been a catastrophic mistake, allowing the RINO “TPPs” to name and direct the issues the movement would “work” and thereby wasting valuable time on theGOP inititiatives and not the ones the TPPs should have been working on to thwart the RINOs and much as the Democrats.

    The TPP has developed into a major political power in the state and nation. They do not need to be hangers’ on to the GOP.

    They need to align better with each other, independant but collaborative groups, much the way the towns, colonies, “states” did during the revolution.

    The TPPs message and goals have nothing in common w/the GOP and it should not allow itself to be used to clean up the GOP’s reputation. And worse, exploit the TPPs good name.

    There are two types of TPP groups in NJ, those who are independant and those who align with the GOP. The latter should dump the GOP and align with their REAL compatriots who do not work for or care about party but stay with the original mission statement, “Taxed Enough Already.”

    A moment’s glance at the GOP spending over the past few years of TPP existence should prove to them that the GOP are drunken sailor spenders, too.

    And then come to the inescapable conclusion that the TPP has nothing in common with the GOP, strike out as their own separate entity and work to restore this nation.

  16. Helen says:

    Very insightful article. We are not “Tea Party Members” per se, yet we have traveled with the Jackson Tea Party to both 9-12 marches in DC, are members of FreedomWorks, consider ourselves Tea Party “followers”, are Glenn Beck “groupies”, went to DC on 8/28, and have moved from being conservative Republicans to being conservative Independents. We moved to NJ in 2004 and find it hard to know the candidates/parties – what’s a Freeholder? Middletown is especially confusing with mayors changing without an election. Many of you might consider us “hangers-on” because we ride the wave of the Tea Party, vote with them, protest with them, yet we don’t do the heavy lifting. We have noticed some of the co-opting that is going on which has led us to be even more reluctant to jump into a group with both feet (or should I say all four since we are joining as a couple). Just read this morning that many of the Wall Street Day of Rage socialist/communist protestors sound very much like they have the same goals as the Tea Party. Are they going to be the next infiltrators of the Tea Party? I’m starting to feel the same way I did in the weeks leading up to the launch of the Glenn Beck show on Fox, “Do others have these same feelings or am I alone?” At this crucial time, aligning ourselves with the wrong groups (or being duped by supposed allies) can hand a very crucial election to those whose goal is to destroy the America we know and love. Would love to be more involved, but this article highlights some of the things that we are worried about.

    • I am Sparticus says:

      Helen,
      No worries. Everything I’ve ever seen written by you has expressed your concern about & love of “God,Country,Family.” You keep following your heart, & we’d all do well to follow your lead.
      To everyone else: Life’s about living. Get on with it.

      I do have a rephrasing of “Taxed Enough Already”.
      I personally say; “Stop Spending our Children’s Money!”
      All OUR money is gone, and now these no good bastards are stealing from kids!

      This far and no farther, say I.
      The power of passionate resistance has yet to meet it’s match.

  17. George says:

    Route 46 Overpass says:
    September 4, 2011 at 9:53 am
    “Robo calls slandering Bayshore were recently done.”

    I’d like to know the rough content of these calls.
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    Wait a minute, first Route 46 says that robo calls slandered Bayshore, and the next thing you know, he’d like to know what the rough content of the calls were. Hmm, what’s up with that?

    But based on comments from “Route 46″ both the Bull Pundit and Bayshore seem to be running with an unproven items.

    I thought Bull Dog got his facts straight first, but the more I read the more I see someone putting their blinders on and repeating it. As if repeating an untruth enough will make it a fact..

    Rather than wrtiting about how Doherty’s fair school funding act would get rid of the Abbott schools once and for all, he keeps silent.

    The Bayshore Tea Party also are seeing so much rage, they too would rather keep silent on something that is good for this whole state. I sent a couple of e-mails to Barbara, and spoke to her and many at the Bayshore Tea Party about pushing Doherty’s plan.

    Both Barbara and Bob said everyone knows his plan. I tried to explain why we should push this before the November elections. Where are they? Are they keeping their members uninformed simply to punish Doherty, or do they really think this is bad legislation to take the courts out of legislating from the bench? Or do they favor the Abbott districts?

    Now that’s a story the Bull Dog could look into. Unfortunately, it appears the Bull Dog doesn’t think much of Doherty’s plan, as he too has not written one word about it.

    Not all Democrats live in the Abbott districts (Newark, Camden, Jersey City, Hoboken, Asbury Park and about 25 other towns). Being that all the state candidates are up for re-election we should get this through before the election, as they won’t listen to us after the election.

    If anything is to be learned, it is that the tea parties will fail if they close off their minds to good legislation because “Route 46″, or some other nameless person responds to a blog saying so and so is behind something.

    The Bull Dog ran with Route 46′s comment, and rather than bury it, has hung on to it like a real item.

    But not only that, the Bayshore Tea Party has taken that same comment from Route 46, repeated it too like it’s a fact and declared war, going as far as sending “must read item of the day messages” and dug in deep.

    They even going as far as to say their members should ignore Lonegan and Doherty. So who is the real puppetmaster?

    Route 46, Bayshore Tea Party, Gene Hoyas, me?

    I wish it was me, as I would be doing my part to get rid of the Abbott schools in a second.
    This coming November is an election year for our State Senators and Assemblymen, so why aren’t the tea parties trying to get this passed now? Because they would rather shoot themselves in the head, and to punish who?!

    Senator Doherty’s plan will legislatively get rid of the Abbott school decisions, and take funding away from the courts and back in our hands.
    Listen to Senator Doherty at this link http://fairschoolfunding.com/

    This is the must read of the day</strong>, and the tea party action of tomorrow if not sooner !
    To see what the regular Republican are touting as a good return compared to conservative Senator Doherty’s plan go here for a real eye opener.
    http://blog.nj.com/njv_paul_mulshine/2011/07/more_fun_with_numbers_the_chri.html

    And this is the pdf file to find out how much school funding your town got, and the cuts, ( Monmouth and Ocean counties are about 2/3 down the page)

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/stateaid/1011/StateAidPresentlyAllocabletoDistrict2011.pdf

    If you want to see the same thing in another format,
    go to this link below and go to “State Aid Allocable To All School Districts, 2011″ Monmouth and Ocean County are about 2/3 down the page.

    http://www.state.nj.us/education/stateaid/1011/

    I sent this information to Barbara two weeks ago, did she speak about it at last Tuesdays meeting?
    Did the Bayshore Tea Party members hear about it?

    The tea parties will fail if they keep their members uninformed, and the Bull Dog Pundit should write about that fact.

    It would be nice if the Bayshore Tea Party made this comment the next Must Read Item sent out to their members, but I’m afraid that won’t happen. Too bad, as we will all lose because of this.

    • HeleneH says:

      George, I received one of those robot calls. Also I must ask you does the end justify the means?

    • Gene Hoyas says:

      But based on comments from “Route 46″ both the Bull Pundit and Bayshore seem to be running with an unproven items. I thought Bull Dog got his facts straight first, but the more I read the more I see someone putting their blinders on and repeating it. As if repeating an untruth enough will make it a fact.

      Pish posh. Unlike Zuendt, Eichmann and Winkler I do my research. Check out this blog tomorrow morning for Dana Pearson’s update on the robo-calls.

      Rather than wrtiting about how Doherty’s fair school funding act would get rid of the Abbott schools once and for all, he keeps silent. The Bayshore Tea Party also are seeing so much rage, they too would rather keep silent on something that is good for this whole state. I sent a couple of e-mails to Barbara, and spoke to her and many at the Bayshore Tea Party about pushing Doherty’s plan.

      Doherty is a weasel who threw Bayshore under the bus. I have nothing but contempt for him and as far as I’m concerned, Bayshore is under no obligation to shill for him or for anyone else. He has shills, cronies and lackeys aplenty at CNJ and CWA. Neither Bayshore nor any other Tea Party group is a handmaiden of the Lonegan Clique or any other party, faction or advocacy organization. The sooner you plant that fact in your skull and keep it there, the better off you’ll be.

      Now that’s a story the Bull Dog could look into. Unfortunately, it appears the Bull Dog doesn’t think much of Doherty’s plan, as he too has not written one word about it.

      I don’t think much of Doherty after he stabbed me in my back. I’m under no obligation to pitch his plan.

      Take a hike, George.

    • lg1015 says:

      George – The address for the Middletown Republican Party can be found in the yellow pages. Find out what their meeting schedules are and explain Doherty’s position to them. Lonegan’s got a big mouth… go ask him to do a bus tour and bring the Senator’s plan “to the people”. Go post on Christie’s fb page. There are Republican party headquarters “grand openings” all over the State. You have plenty of outlets to get his plan out.

      And, go ahead… insist that we don’t do our research… as far as lies, slander, complicity and ROBO CALLS! When you are proven wrong, will you publicly apologize? Somehow I doubt it. I’m sure that once the tangible proof is brought to light, the only sound we will hear from you will be crickets.

    • Route 46 Overpass says:

      George,

      Did you take my the statement that I put in quotes out of context deliberately, or by mistake?

      In response to the September 3 article “Cleanup Needed in the CNJ-Eichmann Aisle”, TeaPartyDem wrote on this blog at September 3, 2011 at 7:27 pm:

      “The villainous, deceitful, slanted garbage coming out of CNJ/CWA is being paid for by someone. Robo calls slandering Bayshore were recently done. [Emphasis added] Since Eichmann/Winkler are alleged political mercenaries, they are not the source, they are the beneficiary.”

      That is where the sentence “Robo calls slandering Bayshore were recently done” came from. On September 4, I merely responded to TeaPartyDem’s assertion. That is why I put his assertion in quotes.

      I have no reason to doubt that assertion by TeaPartyDem. On the contrary, I have many reasons to believe him.

      I still do not know the content of the calls, but from a post since removed on CWA by “NJCRLC” – I think it is probable that the calls had something to do with the “poll” concerning the Freeholder candidate who spoke at Bayshore.

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  19. Barb says:

    George….I tried three times with you …you drank the Lonegan Kool- aid…go hang out with him. I hope you have a lifeboat for when his ship sinks.
    Here is a copy of what I wrote on Art’s blog:

    Hi Art.
    I am so tired of hearing people whisper in my ear about how we should ignore the bloggers. Let’s see, Bateman? tainted. Little? tainted. God knows who else. Well, it ain’t gonna happen here. It is not so much the bloggers we have issue with as much as the people they are blogging for. So, I guess the tea party movement, which is a movement of citizens tired of ALL the BS, are supposed to sit down and shut up while we get dissed, beat up, slandered, libeled, defamed and vandalized by everyone? I think they have finally picked a fight with the wrong people. We do this for ethics, as Gene said. Whatever happens politically in that battle …..so be it. I for one, will fight for integrity and principle no matter what. And just so you know….we ARE getting work done. We are just smart enough to keep quiet about it. You will all know when our work is done. Still love ya Art!!
    Barb

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  20. Barb says:

    George….one more thing. I don’t give a flying —- what Doherty has in the works…he is not a person of any integrity. I have no use for him. You obviously have sold your soul for the hope that something will actually be done right in NJ. You sold your soul to the wrong people, my friend.

    • George says:

      I tried my best to stay off this, but you keep sending these must reads out to the Bayshore Tea Party.

      You also say “you” aren’t saying this, but then send out another must read to the Bull Dog.

      I am sorry that it has gotten to this, but if you’re going to have your members read this then they should also see that their leader is keeping Doherty’s plan to end the Abbott districts.

      How can the Bull Dog start an article titled “Words of Caution for the NJ Tea Party Movement”, that doesn’t caution the tea party members that some tea parties are keeping legislation that would be good for the state of New Jersey simply because he and the leaders of some Tea Parties think they have the facts?

      Barbara you said

      George….one more thing. I don’t give a flying —- what Doherty has in the works…he is not a person of any integrity. I have no use for him. You obviously have sold your soul for the hope that something will actually be done right in NJ. You sold your soul to the wrong people, my friend.

      That’s just wrong. Drawing the line in the sand when youunder it won’t help us.

      I wish you said, “George, you’re right, we all should back this bill”. Tell me which do you like better, to be right or to do what’s right?

  21. Gene Hoyas says:

    I tried my best to stay off this, but you keep sending these must reads out to the Bayshore Tea Party.

    Then stop reading the “must reads,” George.

    I am sorry that it has gotten to this, but if you’re going to have your members read this then they should also see that their leader is keeping Doherty’s plan to end the Abbott districts.

    You made your point, George. I responded to it, as did others. I’m sure the good folk of the Bayshore Tea Party do not all live under a rock and are well aware of Doherty’s plan. If the BTPG chooses not to promote that plan, it is entirely their business.

    They don’t take orders from the Lonegan Clique and neither do I. If you insist on belaboring this point, your comments will be deleted and you will be banned.

  22. Cranky ole Patriot says:

    So George tell me about this fabulous bill.

    I wish you said, “George, you’re right, we all should back this bill”. Tell me which do you like better, to be right or to do what’s right?

    So George, is this the only offering in the state for improving our school funding dilemma?

    So George, does school funding require a Constitutional amendment?

    So George, if the New Jersey Supreme Court is already out of it’s authority in mandating how schools are to be funded, what good will Doherty’s bill do!

    So George, the Republicans are in the minority in the Legislature. How will this bill get passed?

    So George, We might not like Mr Doherty’s bill. We might think that Governor Zeppelin should stand up to the supreme court and defy their unconstitutional meddling. Or, institute vouchers for every student in the state where they can choose where to go to school, and get the best education available. We might think that an all encompassing change in school boards and boards of education is necessary in order to place more money in the hands of those directly involved in teaching our children and not administrators and superintendants, etc. New Jersey is one of the best states for allowing home schooling. What about that. It seems that home schooled children are the most sought after students for college entry.

    So George, there are other ideas out there, perhaps not in bill form but they’re out there.

    So George, why should Bayshore go out of its way to push a Doherty plan when there are so many ideas out there?

    And George, while we are at it What about Character and Principle? Doherty’s plan may be a reasonable start but his lack of Character and Principle taints everything he touches.

    So George, while you might think what you think, you fail to pay attention to all of the facts presented in Gene’s rather meticulous references to the truth and the presentation thereof!

    And George, it’s really insulting to people when you determine yourself to be Judge and Jury. Tea Party groups are open and free flowing. You have been to several Bayshore meetings recently. Why have you not asked to present something on Senator Doherty’s plan? The ideas are fine, the lack of Character and Principle is intolerable and no longer acceptable in the Tea Party view of politicians.

  23. dloosend says:

    Because george, like other GOP flacks, insist on party over principle. The BTPG are open
    meetings, l attend all of them, and george has had ample opportunities to speak up. Since
    l don’t attend GOP meetings, l suppose l have seen the last of george.

    • HeleneH says:

      Oh well, that will give George more time to push Doherty’s bill. Don’t count on the senator to follow through, just ask those at Hagedorn.

  24. Frank Jack Fiamingo says:

    “The CLC regards the Tea Party groups in New Jersey as their “shock troops;” unquestioning obedience and total fealty are expected. Dissent or disagreement – however civilly expressed – will be met with swift retribution. ”

    What utter nonsense.

    FJF

    • HeleneH says:

      Frank, elaborate, please.

    • Gene Hoyas says:

      You disappoint me, Frank.

      What you dismiss as “nonsense” is a matter of recorded history. You remind me of those benighted souls who continue to insist that the earth is flat, that the moon landing was faked and that the fires of 911 could never have melted steel.

      Now put down the gun and move away from the Lonegan Kool-Aid.

  25. Kenny says:

    Ahem – for those of you who are interested – State Senator Mike Doherty is scheduled to be a guest speaker at the Somerset County Tea Party general meeting – This Wednesday – Sept. 21 from 7pm thru 9pm at the Bridgewater Township Library on 1 Vogt Drive in Bridgewater. You are all welcome to listen to Senator Doherty speak about his plan – And yes – George, you’re invited too – and you can also ask Senator Doherty, any questions that you may have. :) Road Trip anyone? Car pools??? :) And Gene – I am NOT being a trouble maker. I’m simply making an announcement.